Tips for buying a second-hand bending machine

Research, manufacturer’s assistance prevent a bad investment

The Tube & Pipe Journal September 2012
September 10, 2012
By: Hartmut Stöhr, Bert Zorn, Jürgen Korte

The second-hand market can be a good source for a used bender, but buyers must be careful. A thorough evaluation of the bender’s capabilities and condition is necessary before making a purchase. Because modern benders are complex and sophisticated, the evaluation is best carried out by the manufacturer, not the buyer. Another option is buying a reconditioned machine from the manufacturer. However, depending on the bending needs, a new bender might be the only viable option.

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A smaller investment and adequate production capacity—the arguments for buying a second-hand machine are obvious. Is it that simple though? Particularly in the case of complex tube bending machines, many factors determine the efficiency of using a second-hand system. Beware that in the worst case, a second-hand machine can become a liability in the production sequence because the component quality and output performance do not match those of your existing equipment.

Who buys a used car without a test drive and without learning about its features? Investing in a second-hand system resembles this scenario more often than you would think. This can be especially troublesome if a complex bending machine from a niche area is bought without consulting the original manufacturer. In many cases, the machine is customer-specific, designed and built for high-precision bending results by means of CNC, high-performance drives, and complex bending tools. It’s not a simple matter to dismantle and reconstruct such a machine to produce new components.

It’s critical to learn what the bender was designed to do—the component geometry, material, and output quantity are three main factors. A machine designed to process thin-walled exhaust pipes in mass production might not be suitable for bending thick-walled high-pressure tubes for plant construction. The machine manufacturer is in the best position to determine if the machine’s design and drive concept can produce the intended components in sufficient volumes.

Taking Risks

The buying and selling of second-hand, special-purpose machines, usually again and again without consulting the manufacturer, is the result of economic considerations. It’s difficult to walk away from a bender offered at an attractive price. However, buyers of bending machines frequently take excessive risks. Machines often are purchased without any testing. Under these conditions, it is impossible to verify that the system has the required capacity.

A thorough evaluation is necessary before making the purchase. The control must show no errors, the mechanics must not be worn, and the machine must be complete in terms of its components. Every axis must work properly.

However, this is just the minimum; many more aspects need to be evaluated. Even small things can tip the balance. For example, if incorrect hydraulic filters are used, the result is a problem in the hydraulic pumps after a short time.

Again, this evaluation is best carried out by the equipment manufacturer.

Check the Records

Sellers sometimes exploit uninformed buyers: old machines are repainted and, in some cases, the capabilities are exaggerated, and accordingly the machine is sold for an inflated price.

The manufacturer can look up the serial number to determine the details, such as the delivery condition, age, and whether the machine has undergone regular maintenance by the manufacturer.

A related problem concerns improper repairs. In the event of production problems, even the original manufacturer’s fitters are sometimes baffled, because they cannot repair nonstandard parts. It is a good idea to contact the manufacturer before making the decision to invest.

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Purchasing a used machine has inherent risks. Wear and tear on machine components, outdated controls, misaligned components, improper repairs (see wiring, inset photograph), and its structural integrity are some of the many significant concerns. Even something less critical, such as the machine’s cleanness, can be a factor in pricing a used machine.

If the machine has been altered, restoring it to its original condition is possible only if all the original parts are still available. Generally, only the machine manufacturer can determine if vital components are still available. Here again, the manufacturer’s database has the necessary information.

Keep in mind that if the manufacturer reconditions the machine, it will replace all of the obsolete components. Moreover, a service contract provides a measure of assurance that the machine will have a sufficient service life.

Focus on Safety Technology

Of course, these indicators aren’t a guarantee. The ideal way to purchase a second-hand machine is to buy it from the original manufacturer. Many equipment manufacturers provide reconditioned and factory-tested second-hand machines.

Reconditioning gives the manufacturer an opportunity to restore the machine to original condition by completely dismantling and reconstructing it from scratch, and including the latest control, electrical and electronic devices, hydraulics, and so on. It’s also an opportunity for the manufacturer to install the latest safety features. In the U.S., this means bringing the machine into compliance with the latest standards, such as the American National Standards Institute (ANSI); in Europe, the machine earns the CE mark. If the machine doesn’t display a CE marking and its safety technology is incomplete, it must not be operated. In some cases, even the lack of operating instructions might be enough for a second-hand machine to be out of compliance with the safety regulations.

You should also inquire about the machine’s warranty when considering a reconditioned machine.

Better Brand-new?

When should a second-hand machine be avoided? The product range and intended use of the machine are critical considerations.

A second-hand machine is a candidate if no series parts are to be produced and sufficient time is scheduled for maintenance and repair. On the other hand, if production is dependent on a high level of availability, and you want the advantages of the latest controls, a new or reconditioned machine is a better choice.

Resolve These Questions Before Buying a Second-hand Machine

Resolving a handful of questions will go a long way in ensuring the machine is a good choice for the application, and that the machine will provide the necessary reliability and output.

  • Is the rating plate in place and does it match the machine?
  • When was the machine last used?
  • Are complete operating instructions pertaining to the machine present, including all maintenance documentation and wiring diagrams? Are they written in the language used by your company’s operators and maintenance personnel?
  • Are all the current safety regulations completely fulfilled?

Answering the following questions completely and accurately requires a machine evaluation by the manufacturer.

  • Is the machine suitable for the required component specification? Can the machine achieve the output demanded at maximum load?
  • Does the machine control show errors in test mode?
  • Does the mechanical system seem stable in test mode (no play, unusual noises, or signs of excessive wear)?
  • Can all spares be obtained easily?
  • Have any structural alterations been made to the machine?

Hartmut Stöhr

Managing Director
Schwarze-Robitec GmbH
Olpener Str. 460-474
Cologne, 51109

Phone: 49-221-8900-80

Bert Zorn

Managing Director
Schwarze-Robitec GmbH
Olpener Str. 460-474
Cologne, 51109
Phone: 49-221-8900-80

Jürgen Korte

Authorized Dealer
Schwarze-Robitec GmbH
Olpener Str. 460-474
Cologne, 51109

Phone: 49-221-8900-80

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